Archive for February, 2008

February 16, 2008

Komodo 4.3 – First look

I decided to give Komodo 4.3 alpha1 a spin and I’ve been running it for a better part of a week now I reckon (since 9th feb) and I must say I like it, a good improvement over 4.2 by far but still has some kinks, mostly in the newly added features I guess.

1st run – Code Intelligence tried to run and do some weird stuff but it hangs, so I had to kill Komodo, startup after that is snappy, faster than 4.2 IMHO

Search in all files = Slow as heck, installing grep and running it is faster (including the installation step), wonder if it’s like a first time cache it’s building up (debunked that theory, strike through isn’t working on this theme so meh.)

The slowness persists and is in Phase 1, gathering list of files and seems to also look in my PEAR dir for some reason; look in current project suddenly became current projects + include_path I think, could be the slow down, grep (like I use it) only searches in the dir I’m in (usually the root of the project) and down. So what I’d want is a new option “search only in current project” on top of the already existing feature :)

Would be better if it displayed results as it found them, seems to hold of for too long

The Asynchronous SCC part is going beautifully, I like it, was getting a wee bit tired of the UI hangups that 4.2 had

Haven’t given the new Unit Test runner a go since none of the projects I’m actively working on at this moment use PHPUnit but I did try to make a Test Plan and it’s not showing up anywhere and a closing Komodo and opening again doesn’t find it in the Project Unit Test Result tab but picking Project -> Select Test Plan does find it and picking the test plan updates the tab I mentioned earlier.

For the fun of it I tried to pick PHP as the language I wanted to run in and in the test command line I did pear run-tests -r just so see if I could cheat past the PHPUnit part but apparently it does not work, but gives me no error or any output what so ever, quite confusing, would have expected “Can’t run” or “No ouput”, “nothing ran” or whatever, but a alpha release is a alpha release.

Now if I just could find out how I edit or delete test plans, that would be swell.

When I have a folder open in the project view which has say, tests I’m running and they fail (phpt) they generate these .diff, .out .exp and whatever, seems to hang up the UI to update the view, same goes if I have one of those files open when I’m running the tests and the contents of the file I have open changes, then Komodo becomes a bit sluggish for a while, sometimes it’s just a second but sometimes longer, I guess it depends on how many tests I’m touching and how many of them are failing or succeeding after having failed (thus cleaning up all the extra files that were added)


Sorry about the hectic sounding post, I wrote this on the fly when I first tried out Komodo 4.3 :-P I’m going to hold of reporting bugs until alpha2 or beta1 is out and if these issues still persist then I’ll try to allocate time to report any of these bugs / feature requests and hopefully other people will enjoy the fixes that will come out of it ;-)

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February 9, 2008

Komodo – The first 3 months

Update: Sean and Shane gave me some tips on some hidden goodies, post updated to reflect that

Update: Sean C came to the rescue on how I should decrease indenting, shift + tab, works like a charm! thanks mate :) Still think it should be listed in the menu like all the other shortcuts

Shane told me how to do the panel hiding, apparently you can do Help – List Keybindings, now who on this earth ever looks in there ;-)

For showing/hiding the 3 panes:

  • Project pane, project tab (left) ctrl+shift+p
  • Project pane, code tab (left) ctrl+shift+c
  • Toolbox pane (right) ctrl+shift+t
  • Output pane (bottom) ctrl+shift+o
  • Focus to edit pane ctrl+shift+e

Even cooler is, I can do custom keybindings


Managed to fix this somehow, managed to fix the dir in another dir but not really (a mouthful) issue, not sure how tho :)


About the folder add problem, filed a bug http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=74774 Hopefully Todd will resolve this before 4.3.0 is out


After I got my new laptop in last November I decided to get a new editor that could work in Windows & Linux and Sean C. told me to give Komodo a go; Having tried it couple of years back and having what I’d describe as blend feelings then I wasn’t really convinced but thought I had nothing better to do (was at a conference) and installed the trial for Komodo IDE and wow it had improved a TON, I must say I fell instantly in love with it.

After having used it I found a couple of flaws or well things that made the usage not perfect for me but well perfection is a rare thing ;-)

First problem I saw was it a bitch when I had HUGE projects with bazillion files and all in a SCM of one or another sort, it would basically just hang when trying to fetch all the status info for each file (Komodo does this nifty thing to show you in your file manager if the file has been edited or is not in sync with the SCM) so handling projects like the pear installer was not so … optimal but after a quick email exchange with Shane C. then he told me that Komodo 4.3 will fix that, he actually finally blogged about it today: http://blogs.activestate.com/shanec/2008/02/komodo-43-in-te.html

And it looks like 4.3 will fix another pet peeve of mine, searching for things per project, on linux it’s a breeze from the command line, grep -ri “foobar” . in the root of the project and voila, supports some regex and what not, perhaps not the most slick solution but it does work and having it straight in Komodo will be nice even tho it will be hard to break of using the cli but perhaps a good thing, can’t setup gnuwin32 on all the machines I might have to code on if they should contain a Windoze.

The Unit Test feature in 4.3 also sounds quite interesting but I’m very disappointed that they don’t seem to support .phpt tests or at least they don’t say they do, PHPUnit is all well and good but most of my tests are phpt so what I’m saying, Shane I demand you add phpt support! I mean it’s the default PHP test suite ;-) Oh and it would be nice if I could make it run the php run tests and the pear one, basically the same but different test runners it calls.

Now back to my problems and what I like with 4.2 :)

For some reason a directory in my project file listing was moved INTO another directory and I can’t for my little life move it back, even if it didn’t happen on the FS it self, it just baffles me, bugging having to remember that one bloody folder is in a different place JUST in komdo for one project :P

As Peter Griffin would put it, this really grinds my gears.

Adding a new file to a SCM via Komodo is also just a pain in the butt, for some reason I can’t add a folder unless I issue a full add on the root folder of the folder I’m trying to add … or something like that, usually end up doing it via cli.

Komodo is lacking some usability shortcuts … decrease ident doesn’t have a short cut, hiding the left / right panes don’t have shortcuts (to my knowledge) perhaps even adding something like Dynamics AX has (just started using it at work, one of the features I liked) which basically is I can hide it but I see a small bar on the left side and when I hover it it pops out and when I leave it for X time it goes away again or like Opera does it, a very thin bar which I have to click or some shortcut and it pops out, click it again it goes away, anyway just a nice feature to have because I tend to work on a 13,3″ screen in 1280×800 which is not a lot of screen space.

Ohh and I also want a way to checkout a repo; Bugging to use the run command or plain cli to do that, best would be if I could do a checkout and auto create a project for it :P

But other than that it has been rocking hard for my use cases, almost perfect ;-) Still having tried the whole debug feature, using xdebug via Komodo and all that but I will soonish, I’m told it’s a very useful and fun feature and perhaps some addons, having seen many thus far, might have been looking in the wrong place.

So all in all, big thumbs up to Komodo, and thanks to ActiveState and Shane for plugging a free license for me since I only do coding in my spare time and don’t have a company to buy it for me and so basically ActiveState has been sponsoring my last 3 months of open source work! Very cool! Would be even cooler if Greg Beaver would get a license, he’s another great OS coder that doesn’t make a living of doing programming, he told me he tried to contact someone in ActiveState with no luck, hopefully someone will see this post and fix that up :-)

Can’t wait for 4.3 /me counts the days